Best Wi-Fi/Cellular Trail Camera for the money?

Scoutguard_QA · **Joined:** Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 pm **Posts:** 65

T-post wrote:

SG Q&A, I have a question that you might be able to help me with.
I've got a SG-660M camera that I really like, but it mysteriously locks-up after it's been out for a few weeks. If I turn it off, then back on, it'll work great for another 2 weeks....and yes, you are correct this camera always sends very nice 640x480 pictures.

My supplier said that I should try a different SD card, I've tried several brands and classes of SD card, same problem with all of them. Perhaps you know of some fix or firmware update?

Sorry, SG660M is not an official product from Boly Media. It might be a clone product from one of our resellers. Only after such things have happened, we can then come out ways to fix it and it takes time. This is one of the major reasons that we decide to come out to support our Scoutguard/Bolyguad customers directly.

john.hatchett · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:31 pm

Scoutguard_QA,

Can you provide a list of the products you can provide support for?

Scoutguard_QA · **Joined:** Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 pm **Posts:** 65

hedp wrote:

T-post wrote:

SG Q&A, I have a question that you might be able to help me with.
I've got a SG-660M camera that I really like, but it mysteriously locks-up after it's been out for a few weeks. If I turn it off, then back on, it'll work great for another 2 weeks....and yes, you are correct this camera always sends very nice 640x480 pictures.

My supplier said that I should try a different SD card, I've tried several brands and classes of SD card, same problem with all of them. Perhaps you know of some fix or firmware update?

If I order a new Scoutguard in a few months and have the pics sent to my Iphone how will I know if they are 640X480 or the smaller ones?
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If the picture can be downloaded to a computer, then the OS or a imaging software tells you the picture size. In addition, many smart phones can tell you the picture size. Finally, the picture quality tells you the difference.

Scoutguard_QA · **Joined:** Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 pm **Posts:** 65

john.hatchett wrote:

Scoutguard_QA wrote:

The manufacturer does not provide Firmware upgrade for wireless cameras, unless the changes are minor. The problem is that too many components are changed by the suppliers, it is hard to trace which camera uses which components.

As such, only new shipments are having the larger transmission picture sizes.

That sounds like the manufacturer does not have a good supply chain and doesn't have good record keeping of what products they have manufactured and shipped.

That's where we need to improve. The problem is that we have too many logos, custom configurations, and firmware upgrade on a wireless camera can be tricky and requires careful testing, due to the fact that the base stations in different countries are all different. It's unfortunate, but the new shipments will be better.

Scoutguard_QA · **Joined:** Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 pm **Posts:** 65

john.hatchett wrote:

Scoutguard_QA,

Can you provide a list of the products you can provide support for?

Hi John,

The best way to check our official product support list is to send email to sales@bolymedia.com.
We do publish product list and specs on our official websites like www.bolymedia.com, www.bolyguard.com,
but website updates sometimes are a few months behind product release.

Some of our customers may also change the model number, as such, we'll need more detailed info. to determine if it is made by our company.

Again, we'll answer only questions related to Scoutguard/Bolyguard brands.

T-post · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:45 pm

SG Q&A,

Thanks for the replies!

I think that I can speak for a lot of folks over here when I say that I'm a little confused.

We're accustomed to one brand, one identity. That is to say that a Ford is a Ford and a Honda is a Honda. If I'm understanding you correctly, a Scoutguard is not necessarily a Scoutguard? Does this mean that not all Scoutguards of the same model are created equal? Please explain how the business model operates. Are there several companies in China all making competing cameras of the same name? Again, thank you for participating in these discussions. I don't intend for the tone of my quarries to seem adversarial, I'm simply trying to understand.

john.hatchett · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:51 pm

Scoutguard_QA wrote:

john.hatchett wrote:

Scoutguard_QA,

Can you provide a list of the products you can provide support for?

Hi John,

The best way to check our official product support list is to send email to sales@bolymedia.com.
We do publish product list and specs on our official websites like http://www.bolymedia.com, http://www.bolyguard.com,
but website updates sometimes are a few months behind product release.

Some of our customers may also change the model number, as such, we'll need more detailed info. to determine if it is made by our company.

Again, we'll answer only questions related to Scoutguard/Bolyguard brands.

I'm sorry Scoutguard_QA but your responses seem very vague and suspicious for a manufacturer's agent. We have heard reports of counterfeit products and speculation of new features on products that are denied by the US distributor. You need to figure out some method of gaining our trust that you are who you claim to be and that you are representing the legitimate manufacturer. One of you own posts elsewhere on chasingame alludes to the presence of "counterfeit" goods, the SG660M, so please just provide a list of the products and models that your company manufactures and you support.

john.hatchett · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:27 pm

Scoutguard_QA wrote:

That's where we need to improve. The problem is that we have too many logos, custom configurations, and firmware upgrade on a wireless camera can be tricky and requires careful testing, due to the fact that the base stations in different countries are all different. It's unfortunate, but the new shipments will be better.

When you want this problem fixed let me know and I can hook you up with a bunch of guys that do configuration management for a living.

Scoutguard_QA · **Joined:** Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 pm **Posts:** 65

T-post wrote:

SG Q&A,

Thanks for the replies!

I think that I can speak for a lot of folks over here when I say that I'm a little confused.

We're accustomed to one brand, one identity. That is to say that a Ford is a Ford and a Honda is a Honda. If I'm understanding you correctly, a Scoutguard is not necessarily a Scoutguard? Does this mean that not all Scoutguards of the same model are created equal? Please explain how the business model operates. Are there several companies in China all making competing cameras of the same name? Again, thank you for participating in these discussions. I don't intend for the tone of my quarries to seem adversarial, I'm simply trying to understand.

Before 2012, the official model names of our products include SG550, SG560, SG570, SG370, SG565F, SG550M/SG580M, MG582, SG560D, SG560P etc.

From 2012, we are releasing many new models, like SG550-8M, SG560-8M, SG570-6M, SG370-4M, SG565F-8M, SG560D-8M, SG560P-8M, SG550M-8M, MG882K-8M, SG850MK-8M, SG968K-10M, BG30K, BG30L, SG968G-10M, etc.

Many of these models are upgrades from previous models. Due to these ugrades, counterfeits will have more difficulty to sustain.

T-post · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:58 pm

Quote:

Many of these models are upgrades from previous models. Due to these ugrades, counterfeits will have more difficulty to sustain.

Okay, I'm beginning to understand, so the others are counterfeits. It seems like such a blatant crime would be easy to prosecute....is that not the case?

john.hatchett · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:08 pm

I am still suspicious. What if all the 2012 models being listed are the new counterfeits?

hedp · **Joined:** Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:59 pm **Posts:** 158

T-post wrote:

Quote:

Many of these models are upgrades from previous models. Due to these ugrades, counterfeits will have more difficulty to sustain.

Okay, I'm beginning to understand, so the others are counterfeits. It seems like such a blatant crime would be easy to prosecute....is that not the case?

Not be sound mean but wouldn't anyone in this business be well aware about counterfeits?

Also, prosecuting counterfeits is extremely hard.
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john.hatchett · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:25 pm

hedp wrote:

Not be sound mean but wouldn't anyone in this business be well aware about counterfeits?
Also, prosecuting counterfeits is extremely hard.
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"counterfeits" can mean a lot of things, from a look-alike design to a weekend production run on the same assembly line.

NY Hunter · **Joined:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:00 pm **Posts:** 2

Hey All, I was doing a little search regarding best cellular game camera, and I stumbled on to this site and was reading the different posts, as the original poster asked, Best WI-FI for the money? I can tell you that my hunting property in Upstate NY is terrible for cell reception..that being said, I had purchased 2 smart scouter units and eventually went with the AT&t model when it became available. I had to incorporate cellular amplifiers with antennas up to 40 ft in the air using trucker antennas. The cameras worked fine up until last year, the one worked for a week then stopped. I pulled the camera down, when I bought it back home it worked fine. So reception is a big issue.. I did however purchase the scoutguard sg550 from a vendor, I have not attempted to go to the property yet to field test it with the amplifiers yet, but I am looking forward to it....I can say this tho comparing both brands...the smart scouter takes forever to do any function, meaning uploading, or booting up and checking for cell service..its really bad, the sg550 is very quick in all functionality, it sends pics quickly when being used in a metro area. that being said I have also noticed that the price of the smart scouters have dropped considerably and they are offering more promotions then ever before, competition is good I guess..I have spoken with trail cam pro a vendor for all sorts of game cameras, they are super nice guys and were very knowledgeable about their products, they did mention the UWAY camera and supposedly a well known name(cant remember it) also that might have one in the works. so I will keep all posted about the SG550 working or not...nice to be here..

Scoutguard_QA · **Joined:** Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 pm **Posts:** 65

For cell signal issues, Scoutguard is now offering two models with boosted antennas: MG582-8M and the black IR version, MG882K-8M. For those already have bought SG580M or SG550M, you may ask your dealer for purchasing boosting antenna alone.

A boosting antenna has 2x stronger signal then the standard antenna. As such, it covers 41% more distance to the cell station, allowing to go 41% deeper into the mountain/forest.

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