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 Post subject: Trail test Acorn/Reconyx
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:26 am 
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Well, I figured I'd pull the cams today cause it has been very windy for 3 full days. Trees and branches are down all over the place in the woods. I was worried the cards may be full from all the swaying. Fortunately it did not cause any false triggers.
The bad news is that there were only 4 different events of deer going past the cameras. The worse news is that I somehow did not synchronize the time on both of them. Not sure how I did that as I swear I was careful. Anyway, there is a difference of roughly about 46 minutes and some odd seconds between the clocks. Obviously that is more higher math than I wanted to play with so I will just list the results.

Both cameras were set a 1 pic with zero delay between pics on high sensitivity. The Ltl Acorn's side PIRs sensors were turned on.

HC600 - 72 pics 1 empty frame
Acorn - 24 pics 1 empty frame and 2 pics with a porcupine tail I think. (it was lower on the tree)

HC600- time between pics - 1 to 2 seconds (mostly 2 seconds between pics at night)
Acorn - time between pics - 6 to 8 seconds

The Ltl Acorn did not miss any of these deer. I had no pictures of them at the edge of the frame when they came in. They were fairly well in the pic on arrival. I did get a few on the edge when they departed probably due to the trigger delay between pics.
The HC600 certainly triggers a lot faster resulting a lot more pictures, though they seemed pretty repetitive. It just plain senses better.

I'm quite satisfied with the Ltl Acorn. It has proven that it will trigger when an animal is in it's range. It does not miss anything. However setting it at 1 pic per trigger with zero delay is not realistically achievable. Maybe setting it on burst mode would make up for that. I will have to test that out eventually.

I like this camera. It's exceptional pics are great. I think it is better than my SG550's in all regards except video. It runs like a champ in extremely cold temperatures. While it may never match the HC600's astronomical picture count, it certainly will capture it's subject. Like someone else noted, it appears it transitions later to IR than the HC600. That is a plus, I like color pics much better than black and white.

The only detractors I have seen thus far is the inability to use a python lock to secure it. If your worried about theft, you will have to buy or build a security box for it. The other thing is the battery indicator. There does not seem to be a way to determine what the batterles strength levels are. If you run off of 8 batteries, you have to remove the front cover from the rear of the camera to access the battery indicator bars. The problem is that you are only seeing the level for 4 batteries since the other 4 are still housed in the back of the camera.

One last thing of note.
I tested the camera in the closet this morning for any noise. It seems that this camera makes 2 noises at each trigger when the IR LED's are activated. It sounds like a soft mechanical swoosh, swoosh sound. It would appear that the IR filter engages and disengages on each trigger. I thought it would only do so once when switching and just stay that way until daylight. That does not seem to be the case.

It is not loud, but I dont like noise on cameras. This is my only real disappointment with the Ltl Acorn.
I hope the manufacturer is aware of this and hopefully working on a fix.
Here are some sample pics.

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Sorry I screwed up the time and date stamps. I plan on doing a burst mode test, but the trail activity is so dismal, it may take awhile to get enough pics to compare.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:36 am 
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Great test slay, and thanks again for putting in the time doing this.

I think the main thing to take from this is that neither camera missed any pictures of deer and can both be counted on to take a picture when a deer walks in front of it.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:58 am 
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As far as i know the manufacture was or is going to be advised.

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Very good news. Thanks Slay.


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It was noted that the Python Cable Lock cannot be used but I believe it can be used if a Security Box is used?

I already had a camera stolen and I will never put one out without a security box again....

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Jim Vokes NY wrote:
It was noted that the Python Cable Lock cannot be used but I believe it can be used if a Security Box is used?

I already had a camera stolen and I will never put one out without a security box again....


Hi Jim,
Yes, it can be used with a security box which is available to use with the python lock.......

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Great info :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:00 pm 
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Jim Vokes NY wrote:
It was noted that the Python Cable Lock cannot be used but I believe it can be used if a Security Box is used?

I already had a camera stolen and I will never put one out without a security box again....
Hi Jim,
Yes, you can use the Python Cable Lock with just the Ltl Acorn, there seems to be some user confussion here.
Actually shenriver_man, has shown a pic sometime ago, maybe we can dig this up to show all that are interested, also the Camlock Box does work great along with the Python Cable.
Just call me again, if you need more information. Always glad to help out! :mrgreen:

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CAM-O wrote:
Hi Jim,
Yes, you can use the Python Cable Lock with just the Ltl Acorn, there seems to be some user confussion here.
Actually shenriver_man, has shown a pic sometime ago, maybe we can dig this up to show all that are interested, also the Camlock Box does work great along with the Python Cable.
Just call me again, if you need more information. Always glad to help out! :mrgreen:

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There is a slot in the top of the extra battery pack for the Python to slip thru.David

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Bluesman wrote:
There is a slot in the top of the extra battery pack for the Python to slip thru.David
Thank you Bluesman, thats the point I was trying to make here, like I said shenriver_man did a great job showing that in his pics.

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That's really become the best thing about this forum...the users have more info on the products than the guys selling them! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:01 am 
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Bluesman wrote:
There is a slot in the top of the extra battery pack for the Python to slip thru.David

Not so David. That extra battery pack disconects from the main camera. What you could end up with is the battery pack pythoned to a tree and the thief would have a fully functioning camera that runs on only 4 batteries.

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While it may not be the most secure that is what the slot David refered to is for. I do understand what you are saying but it just adds that little bit that may deter someone from stealing it if they see that it is pytoned to the tree. I always snug the brass screw with a small screw driver just a tad and I cant get it loose with my fingers. I am sure you could loosen it and it wouldnt be hard to do with a pen knife or something. A security box would be ideal thats for sure but in an area where someone doesnt have a big threat of theft this application would suffice I think. I dont have a big threat of theft on my property and not all my cameras go in boxes but most do mainly because of bears....just look at my avatar. :lol: I am not sayin at all that it is the best way to secure the cam just that that option is there if someone feels its good enough for them. This goes with any camera with any security application....if they want it bad enough they will get it box or not.

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If you have the camera strapped to the tree and the python cable thru the slot no one knows that screw is there unless they already know about it.I perfer the Security box on all my small cameras.With my clubby fingers I need to have the camera in my hands to operate it.
There is places where I would slip a camera like the Lil Acorn,Scoutguards,NX50, SG570 etc.into and just use the python cable as a deterrent because of stealth.I have been asking since I first laid hands on the SG550 that they incorporate a pipe thru on these small cameras.Problem solved all around.And it wouldn't make them that much bigger.Right thru the middle of the back of the camera.Not a little flimsy plastic thing that if it is broke off the camera is still usable but something that if someone did break it off the tree at least the cam wasn't usable anymore.
Take the Lil Acorn for example.Camera is very small but look how big the Security box is for it.Now you just lost everything in making the camera so small.
The Python Cable is probably the most used thing that everyone uses to lock down their cameras.My opinions only and what I like.David

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