sorry wildgame guy none of what i am about to say is directed at you but you did ask for the good the bad and the ugly. my saga began last sept. before i discovered this website. i purchased a ir 8 your flagship cam. i finally had enought and returned it under warranty to receive not one but two pulse 10x your flagship cam. i posted on here about what i should do with the extra cam.i have now been playing with your flagship cams for over a year and i am getting fed up with them. i am not a test dummy i am a avid fan of the hazelville bucks. i spend all of my free time working on my little slice of whitetail heaven and your cams are not cutting it. lets start with wi/fi it apparent does not work as advertised and should be recalled money back. the next great selling factor quickdraw sensor see chasingames review. i would like to note that this system is supposed to conseve battery life and seems to fail there to. next is 15 sec delay you don,t have burst mode and cams are taking up to 50 sec. to take another picture. motion blur i find that your cam is acceptable here but can still use improvement. picture quality is good but nowhere as good as the ir8 when it would take a picture. i was excited to find that this cam had a tripod sockett but was quickly put back to wresling with the cam to get it in position.you need to attach your tripod sockett so it doesn,t come out when you tighen the cam. i have for sometime wondered about the batterys on this cam,anthony just reported a finding that is similar. all this leads to my latest card pull.cam 1 was put out on a scrape foodplot proven great spot with battery charged over6.5 volts on oct 11. it took 36 pictures and quit on the 15 th battery reading 4.3. cam two had a card pull and new battery charged over 6.5 put in it on oct 18 it took 4 pictures and turned itself off. i did not revisit these cams untill the 23 rd and 24 th. i truly believe that you should start from scratch, your company,s good name may sell cams for a while,but the consumer will catch on. i had to beg my dear wife to let me buy a bushnell 466 from chuck at custom interprises if he still has them on sale. one last quetion ,these cams have a internall battery for keeping the settings when you take the batterys out but no instructios on how to replace it. is this because the cams won,t last that long. truly hazelvillebucks

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6 bushnell 119-325 - 1 bushnell 119-466 - 1 119-405 - 1 119-427
1 covert extreme red 40 - 1 nv-5
2 w.g.i. x10 cg
1 moutrie m80 xt 2 m80 x blk 2 m100 xt
1 hunten gsc35-50ir

Yes I did and thanks for explaining your situation.


Everything you have described here is a software/firmware issues (except the tripod mount). WGI is tweaking the setting and producing a fix for the issues. I wasn't giving a date on when it would be released.


It is because we would rather replace the camera. It lowers the risk of error if someone else tries to replace it. The settings are stored on the small drive inside of the camera. The same drive if you didn't have a memory card.

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thanks for your reply wild game guy. i hope that filmware can fix these problems. the two cams seem to have different problems leading to the same result,what are your solfware updates going to target. the cams have a beautiful flash but i would like to see a much shorter duration flash timed to the shutter. this would increase battery life as well as lessen problems with cam advoidance. the motion blur is not bad by the standard set by that other famous long range cam.but a filmware update on time the shutter is open should help. i am sure your updates will address the 15 sec. interval between shots this is a must. i am spoiled by burst mode in other cams. are your updates aimed at the side sensors. it has been reported that they are not working as they should. i wonder if the cam that is draining the battery has a issue with the side sensors being over active or something. i would assume your filmware updates will take care of the picture quality.these cams take good pictures that are just a little off of the quality of the ir8. the ir8 took great pictures but its p.i.r. was terrible . the highly senative p.i.r. is a hard problem i like having a cam that can sense over 80 foot on a consistant basis,but it sure does make it hard to set the cam up. i hate to say it but the m-80 has dealt with this problem very well i just don,t know how they did it. please keep us informed when updates become available but please let us know what the updates are for. truly hazelvillebucks

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5 little acorn 5210-a
6 bushnell 119-325 - 1 bushnell 119-466 - 1 119-405 - 1 119-427
1 covert extreme red 40 - 1 nv-5
2 w.g.i. x10 cg
1 moutrie m80 xt 2 m80 x blk 2 m100 xt
1 hunten gsc35-50ir

The software will be fixing the blur, burst mode, and adjusting the sensor sensitivity. I am sure that more things will be addressed but that is all I was given.


I will when I get information.

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wow burst mode that would be real good. ;' pir sensitivity be careful maybe something that adjusts for ambient temperature. your motion blur is not to bad compared to the competition on long range cams,try to shorten up the duration of the flash and time it to the shutter,i see no need for a plus 1 sec. flash for a hopefully 1 /16 of a sec. shutter opening. that is wasting battery life. by the way i picked up the cam that was draining the battery without any pictures. the battery terminal for the positive battery post can be moved out towards the door or towards the back of the cam.it has probably 1/8 inch of movement. the negative seems to be solid. i have not looked at the other cam to see if it is the same but i suspect it is. i believe this is the source of the problem on both cams. i should now be able to leave the cams with a solid battery connection just as soon as i figure out which position the positive terminal should be in. just for the record this cam worked great this card pull.the pictures both day and night seemed better there was very little motion blur. the range on the pir and the quality of the long range pictures was great;'[\] . acourse it helps when a shooter buck if it wasn,t for my battle with pinchusion shows himself. deer hunting is a emotional rollercoaster , our cams just adds to it. i have not had the time to figure it out but i apparently have some pictures in internal memory on one of my cams how can i delete these pictures. i will be hunting for the next 22 days so i will probably become even worse than i have been so far. i sure would like a programming fix for the tripod insert. truly hazelvillebucks

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5 little acorn 5210-a
6 bushnell 119-325 - 1 bushnell 119-466 - 1 119-405 - 1 119-427
1 covert extreme red 40 - 1 nv-5
2 w.g.i. x10 cg
1 moutrie m80 xt 2 m80 x blk 2 m100 xt
1 hunten gsc35-50ir

I sent your all of your great suggestions to the proper department head.


Take out the memory card and turn on the display. Go to view your pictures like you normally would and you will see them there. There won't be many.

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sorry wild game guy,i hope you are not getting tired of me yet.i was wondering if you could find out which position the positive battery terminal is supposed to be in when the cam is in use.i think that it should be pushed in.it looks to me like it is built this way to help when the battery is taken out. i deleted the pictures from internal memory,it seems that when you delete pictures you have to hit the reset button. we can live with these type of things,all cams have their quirks. the picture quality from the second cam was again great.little motion blur,there was some questionable pic. at transition time. great range.still a few false triggers. it is soon going to get cold and i look forward to playing with this cam in the winter.the ir8 did its best work last year in the super cold. i see on a recent post that the other long distance cam that has the blur problem may not like the cold. if you guys really do the programming updates that you have talked about and shorten the flash duration so that you can have better battery life than i would have to say you have a winner. truly hazelvillebucks

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5 little acorn 5210-a
6 bushnell 119-325 - 1 bushnell 119-466 - 1 119-405 - 1 119-427
1 covert extreme red 40 - 1 nv-5
2 w.g.i. x10 cg
1 moutrie m80 xt 2 m80 x blk 2 m100 xt
1 hunten gsc35-50ir

Nope. Love the questions.


The positive end of the battery should be towards the top when its in.


Weird. You should be able to just hit delete to delete them. Not reset.


Thanks for your comments. Yes we are talking to the programmers of the software to get those tweaks in. I don't have a date when it is launching though.

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i did not make myselt clear on the battery terminal thing. i know which way to put in the battery ,what i am talking about is the metal plate that the battery terminal rests against when the battery is installed.this plate on the positive side can move 1/8 of a inch. it looks like it is designed to move when you take out the battery to make the task easier. if this is true then one should make sure that it is pushed in before leaving the cam for a week only to find out that the cam turned itself off after 4 pictures.or that the battery is drained after only a few pictures.i believe that both of these things have happened. because of the position of this plate. it i don,t know which way it is supposed to be in i have to try it both ways and shake the cam ,tap on it try to make sure that it has a good connection before i leave. i quess you could call this foolproofing. truly hazelvillebucks

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5 little acorn 5210-a
6 bushnell 119-325 - 1 bushnell 119-466 - 1 119-405 - 1 119-427
1 covert extreme red 40 - 1 nv-5
2 w.g.i. x10 cg
1 moutrie m80 xt 2 m80 x blk 2 m100 xt
1 hunten gsc35-50ir

hazelville, the terminal contact plates on my Pulse 10X do not move which makes me think yours is messed up. And you're probably not going to want to hear this but my 10X died last Tuesday night-will not power up and is already on its way to Texas. I've only had it like 3 months. I sent a D8D and an IR8X with it-both have the all black night pic problem. The reason I keep buying the Wildgames is picture quality, price and customer service however I am gettin tired of sending them in all the time so I'm probably done.

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1-Hunten GSC35-40IR
2-WGI D8D
1-WGI W6XAC
5-Bushnell 119466c
2-Bushnell 119446c
1-Bushnell 119437c
1-Bushnell 119439
1-Stealth Cam I890
3-Sony S600/Yeti
1-Moultrie M-100
1-Moultrie D-444
1-Moultrie Panoramic 150
2-Reconyx HC600
1-Spypoint BF-7
4-Uway XtendIR-B2
1-Uway XtendIR

thats weird that yours don,t move, i got back to my other one and it had turned itself off 36 hr before i got there i pushed in on the positive terminal plate and it fired right up. it also seems that the picture quality is getting better on these cams for some reason.we never did hear why it was a tad off. i hope they get to work on the fixes that wildgame guy talked about if we were to get a burst mode it would be nice. when these cams work they work real good . i love the idea of a cam sensing and taking quality pictures out past 80 foot,my littles and the 466can,t do this. it seems that the huntin blackflash is coming soon.if it does get here and if it does what they say it will do than our quest for a long range black flash cam will be over. now thats a big if. i wonder how to approach mama on this necessity that we have to have. truly hazelvillebucks

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TRULY HAZELVILLEBUCKS
5 little acorn 5210-a
6 bushnell 119-325 - 1 bushnell 119-466 - 1 119-405 - 1 119-427
1 covert extreme red 40 - 1 nv-5
2 w.g.i. x10 cg
1 moutrie m80 xt 2 m80 x blk 2 m100 xt
1 hunten gsc35-50ir

I am sorry hazelvillebucks, I thought you were talking about the battery itself. That plate is not suppose to move just like Crosshair said. I would suggest replacing it but if your camera is still taking great photos, then I wouldn't.

Also I mentioned that WGI was working on fixing the burst mode on the cameras. WGI doesn't have any cameras out yet that have this feature on any of the cameras (Maybe next season). It was a miscommunication error between me and my contact on this part. So as right now, the few bugs that I know of that are being tweaked is the Wifi module, motion blur, and sensitivity settings. I don't have dates on when they will be released. Sorry hazelvillebucks and anyone else for getting your hopes up with the burst mode.

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you say sensitivity settings is this so that the side sensors work or are they making the delay 15 seconds. the cam needs both. your motion blur is not to bad compared to what i have seen. if you have a cam that is going to pick up what goes by it .it is sometimes going to have false triggers. i wonder if you could find out what is causing the pictures to be a little off. my cams usually needed a little contrast added to them to sharpen up the picture on daytime photo,s. this issue seems to be correcting itself over time. truly hazelvillebucks

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5 little acorn 5210-a
6 bushnell 119-325 - 1 bushnell 119-466 - 1 119-405 - 1 119-427
1 covert extreme red 40 - 1 nv-5
2 w.g.i. x10 cg
1 moutrie m80 xt 2 m80 x blk 2 m100 xt
1 hunten gsc35-50ir

Yes, that is what I have been told.
Noted and added to the previous suggestion you have made.

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