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08-20-2010 - 2010 XLT warranty return and customer service testing:
On 3rd week of June I spent 20 minutes on the phone contacting customer
service to get an RMA for a return of a leaking camera.
Once on the phone I was told to supply a copy of the
receipt and a description of the issue along with $10
and the camera to them for repair. The camera was packed
up and put into the mail the next day at a cost of
around $8 for postage. The cost of the camera plus the
$10 and postage means I now have invested an additional
$18 for an inoperable camera. I supplied my E mail
address in the paperwork I sent with the camera for
receipt confirmation. We received a postcard 10 days
later as confirmation of receipt for repair. Their web
site said that they received it 3 days earlier.
Based on the shipping confirmation it was waiting in
house 3 days prior to the RMA update being put on the
web site.
We are going to call this whole ordeal to a close. After our comments at
the end of the review we were accused of almost bashing
Bushnell. They stated that they had had no history of
any cameras being returned for that reason. Within ten
minutes of receiving that email I was able to find two
such cases reported on forums, and later I found one
fellow who stated that his filled with water and he
called Bass pro and was told they had had several
returned for that reason. We are assuming that the
reporting through Bushnell’s system is not working and
it may very well be true that they “just don’t know”
about what is happening. We presently have another
fellow on our forum that also has the water leak
problem.
Bushnell has told us that the return ratio of the 2010 XLT cameras is
very low yet the turn around time is very long. Our
test to that system referenced above has the details and
shows the actual cost and time plus the results of a
typical return of a damaged camera through that system.
The Boly platform 2009 camera seems to be what is
requested as a replacement for the Keep Time 2010 XLT in
a lot of cases rather than play the cam lottery in hopes
of getting a certain cam without problems and final firm
ware.
I have been writing this note as time goes along and the information
begins to collect at a faster rate. We are now past
thirty days with no word and the forums are starting to
fill up with this same issue. The consensus seems to be
that the two year warranty is of little value if the
turn around time and rate of failure keeps the cam in
repair a good portion of that time. Many have stated
that if the warranty was one year and the turn around
was down to a week or better then that would be more
acceptable.
We have been in a very in depth study of everything Keep Time for a
while which involves a lot of data strait out the back
door of the factory information and some highly involved
dissecting of products. We see that the cameras that we
reviewed as being post release that were acquired very
early after release from catalog and on line vendors are
definitely far different in performance than what is
presently being shipped to the customers today. The
specifications have changed and were never announced.
Items like a 2 to 3 second trigger time and a 7.5 frame
per second video (interpolated by adding like frames and
advertized as 30). Night IR pictures have extreme
unacceptable motion blur because the exposure time was
cranked up to achieve brightness. This is very much like
what we found on another brand a couple years ago and
the distributor was not aware.
Strange happening starting on 27 August I noticed several forums that
had threads where people had this remarkable turn around
times with the Bushnell repair service. All that
happened the same day. All had recent cameras returned
and had already received them back Yet our test cases
that we monitor every day still has the same note that
says this.
Repair Status:
Replacement Item on Order
I have a couple of words I like to use for this kind of happenings but I
will have to resort to initials (BS). If those reports
are true it is even more of a problem because then it
would show that their system is not first in and first
out. Instead it would show that no matter when you sent
your cam in for repair it would come out when ever they
got around to it and not by any sequence. Gorilla
marketing of this type has been attempted by more than
one company and each time they have got caught, so let’s
hope that is not the case here and just some over
zealous individuals off on their own.
Well by now with the amount of returns and failure rate and dissatisfied
customers we would think someone who was importing these
cameras might have a few questions to ask the
manufacture. The last year’s success of the BTC was
historic and gives credit to the Boly Media connection
to that camera. Now all that has been divorced and the
now producer Keep Time has seemed to slip in a few
changes that were never announced. There was a big push
to correct the color day pictures by manipulating the
firmware and chip changes. This process seemed to please
some customers with those pictures but no one took a
second look at the trigger times or motion blur of this
camera. All their attention to one area has created
problems like run away yet these faults are not being
caught prior to shipping. Out of the box problems are
being reported each day since this all started and
continues to happen as late as this morning 08-16 and
now we see a mention of a firmware availability but no
mention as to why one should do the upgrade (if it is
actually an upgrade) (or a band aid) and the reasons
behind it and what to expect once it has been done.
We now see that we have one of our test cameras listed as shipped which
if it was to arrive today it would have been gone about
60 days days. If they were to acknowledge that they did
have a problem then I can understand that amount of
delay. What I do not understand is that the retail
vendors had been constantly supplied with cameras all
during this time and no mention of any problems by
Bushnell on those cameras .Yet the reports show that the
quality control did not work and the market is still
getting faulty cameras. This type of action is totally
unacceptable even if they hope to now do a correction by
user applied firmware updates, which should have been
done prior to shipping.
The camera arrived and we put it through its paces. The frame rate is
still below the advertized amount and the trigger times
are about six tenths of a second shy of the one second
which is much better and in my book. I can accept that,
but the catalogs (that cannot be changed) are still out
there but they can
change the web site specifications. All the pictures are
very dark and the IR pictures show a degree of
fuzziness. Sensing was satisfactory at 38 feet at 85
degrees. There is still a degree of blur but it is
better. They have done a lot to this camera but is still
lacking. With the hardware Incorporated into this camera
they have reached the peak and cannot go further without
another hardware/firmware change which will probably
happen next year.
The
word “Customer Service” got stretched a little in this
case. This is not to say that all the good people
working there did this. This situation was handed to
them by Keep Time and it all happened while some
management even though told chose not to pay attention.
This caused a lot of extra hard work on their part and
they are commended for their hard work to get through
this situation and keep on trying to keep the surge of
public dissatisfaction to a dull roar.
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