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HCO 30 IR Scouting Camera

www.huntingcamonline.com
P.O.Box 258
Gadsden, SC 29052
Tel:1-803-223-9710
Fax:1-803-334-4505

Size comparison to Wildview:


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Replacement batteries are just under $30 for this camera.

HCO 30 IR camera review 02-14-2008

Well, we did not think we were going to see a new camera that is somewhat smaller than the Wildview cams but this one is about an inch shorter than our Wildview cameras. Roughly 6 ½  inch tall and 2 ¼ inches deep with a width of a little less than 5 inches. This is another cam in the door design and makes it lose its positioning in the field when the battery laden door swings open to check the card. I complain about this with most but it isn’t really a big problem. The door has a full rubber seal all the way around the door and there is no weep holes in the bottom so this cam would remain water tight even when submerged. The case has a nice camo appearance and centered at the top is the IR array with the test and low battery indicator included in this setup. Below the array is the PIR sensor and camera lens. The loops on the rear of the cam align with the IR array so the Stealth type locking bar would cause the Python cable to cross the array. These folks have informed me that they are working on a new case for future cams that will incorporate some type of security feature. The case, hinges and latches seem to be well designed and lock up very tight. About 2.5 hours on the supplied lithium ion battery got me a green light and the battery was ready to install. The dimensions of the battery compartment is very tight so the battery fits in very snuggly which in the case with this cam made it difficult to properly seat the battery and install the cover, but firm pressure seemed to work just fine. The company recommends that when first doing your programming that you place the card in the camera and hook up the USB cable to your computer and do a format of the card. As with many other cams this cam will not recognize some cards. I took a couple of old cards that were on the bench from one of my Bushnell cams and they worked just fine without formatting plus they were some off brand name. Documentation is a little rough but I was able to do the programming with ease. The mode is accomplished by pressing the mode wheel and then rotating that same wheel to give you the up down feature. Programming is done in the test mode. Once programmed the switch is moved to the on position and the red indicator on the front of the camera starts to flash for a while and when it stops the camera is armed and ready to take pictures. The slide switch will adjust how far the camera will sense. The OK button is the enter feature. Once programmed, I took it to the field and did the flash range tests and the array did a good job out to 40 feet. The sensing range set on maximum for this 28 degree morning was only out to 30 feet. The picture quality for the night time IR pictures looked to be about the same as most cameras and had a little degree of fuzzy. Rough trigger time is somewhere between 2 and 3 seconds. This will be put on the clock as soon as I get it out to Anthony for the official time. A very nice 12 volt port is also located on the bottom of the cam with a rubber seal to keep the bugs and moisture out when not in use. We now need to put this cam to work and see how it performs in the field.


 

02-19-2008 update:  We had a little bit of difficulties with one of our cameras and it is going back to be looked at. We put this cam on the table for some trigger time tests and were a bit disappointed. The times came out around 4 seconds for many tests. This means that those who choose this little cam for their mission to the woods must pay close attention how you do your setup. This cam would do well for security because of its size and also it is IR. Best application would be on a feeder or lick application. This being the first year for this cam the folks are taking many notes and we will probably see some pretty fantastic improvements in future models. For those who have been happy with the Wildview IR, you would also like this camera. The picture quality that we have seen from the test pictures (trigger/flash range) are lacking in contrast but clear enough for many applications. We have it on a tree and it is looking hard for some good field test pictures which we will post in a couple of days. I am still in the thought process on making a security bracket for this camera.

 

02-24-2008 update:  Surgery things to my old body have began to exit and maybe I will survive to continue this review. I will start with the pictures in general. This cam has what appears to be about a 2X zoom built in. Our test pictures are from about 18 feet out from the target area yet the deer appear to be on top of the camera. This feature is not a negative but should be a consideration when placing the camera in the field. The next thing is the actual IR illumination. It looks like all the emitters are all the same (long range) and they have not incorporated any wide angle or medium range emitters to the array. This produces a very narrow band directly in front of the camera. This setup leaves the peripheral without any illumination. Our setup is on a feeder so we have the animals captured in a small area and with this type of situation this camera worked very well. The IR picture quality is much better than more expensive cameras like the Predator. The daytime color pictures are a little washed and are not vibrant in color but nice and clear but still lacking in contrast. There seems to be a green hue to all the color pictures. Everything that we have asked this camera to do so far has been done very well with the exception of the relatively slow trigger. The factory folks are in the process of evaluating their tests which are faster than ours and are going to let us know their findings. We have two of the HCO 30 cams and today #2 will be taken to the table for a side by side test to see if both rate the same on trigger time. I did a setup on the ground where the squirrels hang out and we made a short move using this cam. The normal procedure is to put out the clip and check to see folks reaction to the clips and see if their impressions are the same as ours. Most folks really liked this cam when used in the movie mode. This was our impression also. When we make these short clips Anthony adds some sound to the video clips and some of the folks thought it would be nice to have the sound feature built into the movie mode. Though the picture quality showed a little bit of pixel distortion, the over all quality was pretty good. Every one should watch this company because they are going to stay on top of things and even with this cam presenting its debut as very positive, there will be better things to come. Over a weeks of use the battery indicator still shows full, which is good news as long as the indicator is accurate. We have #1 on a tree in the movie mode to get some of the action at the feeder, which we will post when available. For you dealers that may venture into our reviews, this company is very much open to hear from you and get you setup as one of their vendors. Starting in this business can be rough times until the word gets out about their products. Our brief dealings with this company’s support system have proven to be very positive. When the original #2 displayed a problem just out of the box a simple E mail was quickly answered and a replacement unit was here in a couple days. I think that even with the trigger time thing this cam is going to prove to be a very good little cam.

 

02-26-2008 update:  Spent a number of hours doing the side by side trigger tests using both #1 and #2 and the results were that both has a 4+ trigger time. The company rep stated that this fact is outside the reported specifications and the factory folks are busy trying to figure just what the problem is. Both the 30 and 50 use the same sensing components so the trigger times should be the same but the 30 is about 3 seconds slower. With out a doubt they will have this answered very shortly. We seen this same situation with the Stealth cam folks where their pre production cams had very good specs but what was delivered as the final product had a much slower trigger time than pre production cams. Even with the shortcomings these cams still perform well.


04-11-2008 update:  This HCO camera does not have any of the problem areas of its two big brothers. We have them deployed in the field in situations where the 4 second trigger is not a problem. We were able to capture tom turkeys in full strut and we also got a first look at a piebald deer that we did not know we had on the property. The small size and easy concealment is a big plus. This being the first year for these cams the factory folks are working hard to make sure that the noted deficiencies are corrected. We hope to get a chance to travel down country this afternoon so we should have more news on this cam in a couple of days.

04-19-2008 update:  The two HCO 30’s we have out were dead and required recharged batteries. This is the 4th week and one of the cameras is taking over a thousand pictures a week and the last set of pictures was dated yesterday. The other cam is in a much slower area but still took a number of pictures. In the field it looks like 3 to 4 weeks battery life will probably be the average. We had some very sharp and clear IR pictures but the day color was a little washed but still had good contrast. With new batteries today we will start round two and see if we see a repeat of the performance again.
 

04-28-2008 update: Both cams were still on the full mark for the battery level and one of the cams had 20-0 pictures and the other only had about 50 and still going strong. This is a really nice little cam and so far has worked well.

 

05-03-2008 update:  Both cams are still going strong and are taking a multitude of pictures. We have been favorably impressed these past few weeks as to just how many pictures this cam takes and still have pretty good battery life. 


 

 

Trigger Time
4+ seconds
 
Flash Range
Low Res Samples (1600x1200)
Note: Date/Time stamp is missing but exif data is correct

Samples Hi res (2048x1536)




Movie Samples

Click for a Movie Presentation using the above movies.
 

 



HCO 50 IR Scouting Camera

www.huntingcamonline.com
P.O.Box 258
Gadsden, SC 29052
Tel:1-803-223-9710
Fax:1-803-334-4505

Dealers Wanted for these cameras.

Authorized Dealer:
www.beebusyoutdoors.com

Replacement batteries are just under $30 for this camera.

HCO 50 IR camera review 02-16-2008

I have been having a good time going through these small cameras. I like the small size and the ability to hide it from those unwanted eyes. These small packages are not short in desirable features. So far we found that its little brother the HCO 30 had done everything that it is suppose to do. This cam has the same physical dimensions and case features. Very much like the leaf river cams this camera has a view screen and on screen programming. Switch to the test location on the on/off switch and then press the menu button and by use of a small joy stick, you can toggle through the different settings. These are capture mode, resolution, video time, IR (flash) led on/off, delay time, TV out, resolution (2-3-5 MP), language, and date/time. Once selected just push the center of the joy stick to select (enter). Video length is adjustable from 15, 30, 60, and 120 seconds which is a nice feature that others do not have. Delay time is from 30 seconds to 30 minutes. You can view the pictures on the screen and delete all/some selected pictures if you wish. As with many of the cameras that are on the market today, a portion of the MP ratings are gained through interpolation. We always like the 1.3 to 3 MP settings because of the ease of file size handling. With most reviews I try to go ahead and learn the camera and its programming with out having to view the instructions. With both of these cameras I was able to complete all the programming prior to reading the instructions. I am just a day out from having surgery and I am not in the best of shape due to some pain but setting around and having to think about what needs to be done is not fun. I will dig a little deeper into these cameras in a few days when things are a little easier.
 

02-24-2008 update:  With me setting back with a cushion under everything trying to get comfortable so I can get more of this review done. Being the surgery thing had taken place the flash range tests will have come later. We did the trigger times and found them to be a very respectable 1.5 seconds on repeated tests. A quick look at the trigger time pictures will show you that we are going to have much better picture quality than we did with the less expensive 30 model. One and a half days of hanging on a tree gave us an idea of what we will be getting once we get the final setup done for our test pictures. This camera also has that zoom built in so our first pictures look like we are 3 or 4 feet from the animals. The night pictures have a lot of IR burn and this told us we must back the camera off another 10 feet from the target area. This camera has the same narrow focus with the IR light that fails to illuminate the peripheral. By moving back we hope that this will help put more of the approaching animals in the lighted area. We are starting off with the lowest rez setting and will show sample pictures for each rez setting as we come to it. Last we will do the movie samples. We have gained great respect for this little cam and if the picture quality proves itself out, I would probably not have any problem recommending this camera to anyone. The posted sample pictures are just temporary and once we get some more from our final setup we will post them.

02-29-2008 update:  In the process of getting the sample pictures we began to experience a lot of IR burn in the night time pictures. The first distance was around 12 feet then we moved back to 18 feet and still had considerable amount of burn. We then moved back to 25+ feet and the pictures began to take on a good degree of detail, without burn. This is somewhat defeating because when the warm weather hits the PIR sensor will probably start to have a problem seeing the animals. At the last distance the IR array pattern is somewhat wider and gives a little more illumination to the coverage area. This is still very narrow and needs to be much wider to be effective. So far this camera is still performing as advertised and we will continue through the different rez settings and get some multi (burst) shot pictures also.
 

03-02-2008 update:  We did our run to achieve good night pictures without IR burn by moving back to 25+ feet. Once this was accomplished we switched to the movie mode and found that the IR illumination in the movie mode drops considerably. The movies at that distance, come out very weak and pixilated. Once we finish getting the test pictures in all the rez settings we will go back to the movie mode and keep moving the distance in until we see that the illumination is sufficient to produce good pictures and report on that. The battery life on this cam started on 2-16 and on 3-1 it finally died. To total pictures was 150 and it also took 142 thirty second movies.  Replacement batteries are just under $30 for this camera This is very acceptable battery life and speaks well for the LI type as their choice of batteries. The charge time was just over 2 hours and the cam is back out to the testing area for the rest of the test.

03-27-2008 update:  We had some questions about the function of this camera and after discussing the indications with the folks at HCO they wanted the cam back and sent us a replacement. As soon as the cam came in I set up for the next mornings flash range and sensing range tests. This morning I performed these tests and found that the flash on this particular camera is very good to 40 feet. The sensing range is also 40 feet for this 43 degree morning. By accident I had bumped the switch to movie and I got a movie with flash clip and it is somewhat weaker than with the still pictures. It will be back out for some more field testing.

03-28-2008 update:  We discovered that the view screen zoom feature when used in the test mode and then switched directly to “on” position will remain in the last zoom setting and the pictures taken will be zoomed. If the zoom feature is used and then the camera is switched to the off position then to on the zoom is set back to zero and the pictures will be without zoom. This may be of interest to those folks that want to set up to determine what is happening in a small area and need a closer look. With the improved flash I have a mission on a particular trail for this camera, but it will be this weekend before we can take it to our wild area for a better look at its function.

04-07-2008 update:  The trip to the big woods has pretty well allowed us to get a handle on what has been happening with the 50/80 series cameras. The folks at HCO have concluded through the inquiries with their factory folks that the problem where things stop working and only the battery indicator will come on and buttons don’t work is an SD card problem. If you experience this indication it should be corrected by only changing to a compatible card. The other problem where we went through a day-night-then back to day and the camera would start to fail. We initially figured this was a programming issue because we could easily repeat the failure. What we didn’t realize was that the battery would fail on the third day and the cam would start to fail and the flash would not go off that night. This was found by carefully measuring available voltage during different stages of operation. The factory folks are jumping on this and we should have an answer very quickly. The strange thing is that the HCO 30 cams using the same setup do not have this problem. We had some very good field pictures by both the 50 and 80 cams while the battery was still up.

 

 
Trigger Time
1.5 seconds
 
Flash Range
Photo

Movie
 
Samples 1600x1200 (lowest res)

(fog on the lense this morning)

(approx 18 feet from feeder)


 
Samples 2048x1536 (next larger res)
Approx. 25 feet from feeder


 
Samples 2592x1944 (highest res)
Approx. 15 feet from feeder


 
Movie Samples
Approx. 25 feet from feeder

 
 

HCO 80 IR Scouting Camera

www.huntingcamonline.com
P.O.Box 258
Gadsden, SC 29052
Tel:1-803-223-9710
Fax:1-803-334-4505

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HCO-80 7 MP IR camera review 03-26-2008

We are presently in the middle of reviews on both the 50 and 30 series from this company. We now have their top of the line 70/80 camera. There is a little confusion about the nomenclature but lets just say that this cam will go all the way to 3272x2304 pixels at the top. This is 3 MP’s over the HCO-50 and is gained through interpolation. The camera description is the same as all the predecessors but has the view screen that is not part of the HCO-30. The accessories also included the mounting strap that was not in the HCO-30 box. This very small and highly functional camera will hopefully have a trigger time in that 1+ second range as we found on the 50 series. I have spent some sleepless nights trying to build in my mind a security bracket for this small camera. The problem is the location of the strap slots on the back of the camera. If they were located a little lower a simple locking plate like Stealth would work just fine. Then the cable could cross between the Array and the PIR sensor. This new LI battery pack is just great and seems to work just fine on all the previous models we have tested. We will definitely see this copied by the competition because of how well it works. This company has started to gain vendors so availability is not a problem. The list is posted on the HCO web site. One area that was not previously discussed was warranty. They stand firm on the fact that the camera must be purchased from an authorized dealer and will be for a period of one year. They say they will repair or replace as the problem deems necessary. View the reviews on both the 30 and 50 series for all the basic specs and function as they are the same with the exception of the additional programming for the higher MP ratings and of course the 30 does not have the view screen. I am off to the back to get set up for the flash range tests which should be the same as the others because the array is the same.

03-27-2008 update:  Well after testing the flash range on the HCO-50 this morning I set up and began the same test on this camera. I was somewhat disappointed in the results. The HCO- 50 really pumped out the light but this cam was pretty weak at 40 feet. I wanted to make sure that it was not a fluke so I fired up our second HCO-80 for the same test. The results were the same and so was the 35 ft. sensing range at 43 degrees. I got the impression of the trigger time to be something less than 2 seconds during these tests. This will be determined once we put it on the test stand. At this point I am very curious about how good the daytime pictures are. I will stick it out the first thing this morning once the sun comes up and try to catch one of the tree rats playing with the bird seed under my feeder. Then it will take a trip to the hill and be put on one of the feeders.

03-28-2008 update:  We discovered that the view screen zoom feature when used in the test mode and then switched directly to “on” position will remain in the last zoom setting and the pictures taken will be zoomed. If the zoom feature is used and then the camera is switched to the off position then to on the zoom is set back to zero and the pictures will be without zoom. This may be of interest to those folks that want to set up to determine what is happening in a small area and need a closer look. This is also the same on the 50 series cams. We have got to get more of these cams in the woods and off the feeders where they should be very happy. With the 1.5 trigger they can be used in most every situation. Just remember that the flash aim is critical with these cameras.
 

04-05-2008 update:  We have been real busy trying to run this cam thru its paces. We have a pair of these cams so we took one to the big woods for some wild shots away from the feeders and the other we kept local to gather the test shots. Both the HCO 50 and 80 have been problematic for us. Both the HCO folks and I have been busy trying to figure just what is happening. Two different things happen and both problems have been corrected by removing the battery and rebooting the cam.

 

  • The first problem is where we see only a battery indicator on the LCD when turned on and buttons and menu will not work.

  • The other problem is where the cam will take day time pictures when first put out and will transition to flash at night. When the daylight again hits this camera it will again take day pictures but from then on we see whiteouts in the day and the flash will not turn back on unless rebooted and then again the cam will cycle through this same scenario.

 

The camera is on our big test area and we will not see it until tomorrow to see if it also does the same thing. It is like the day night sensor gets stuck after the second day. We have not experienced these issues with the HCO-30 so far. The support for these cameras has been exceptional and the manufactures are very busy to come up with solutions as problems are identified.
 

04-07-2008 update:  The trip to the big woods has pretty well allowed us to get a handle on what has been happening with the 50/80 series cameras. The folks at HCO have concluded through the inquiries with their factory folks that the problem where things stop working and only the battery indicator will come on and buttons don’t work is an SD card problem. If you experience this indication it should be corrected by only changing to a compatible card. The other problem where we went through a day-night-then back to day and the camera would start to fail. We initially figured this was a programming issue because we could easily repeat the failure. What we didn’t realize was that the battery would fail on the third day and the cam would start to fail and the flash would not go off that night. This was found by carefully measuring available voltage during different stages of operation. The factory folks are jumping on this and we should have an answer very quickly. The strange thing is that the HCO 30 cams using the same setup do not have this problem. We had some very good field pictures by both the 50 and 80 cams while the battery was still up.

 


  

Trigger Time
2 seconds
 
Flash Range
 
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Movie Samples
 

 
 

 

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