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Predator Evolution IR camera red blob and no red flash review 10-13-2007

"There are 3 things the rest of the trailcam industry can do they can either RUN and HIDE and pretend we don't exsist, CHANGE, OR GO OUT OF BUSINESS! "

These were some pretty strong words that were posted on one of the forums that I visited and it made us want to get our hands on one of these cameras. The big thump at the front door and the sound of the big brown truck pulling away told us that we had another delivery. The box was small and not very well wrapped and no packing. What came out of the box was a pretty neat looking case with an unusual latch system. The well camouflaged solid case appeared to be very well constructed. I proceeded to try to open the case but the sliding latch was stuck. It required the use of edge of a coin to get the slide to move a little then it would slide and rotate out of the way. I found out while evaluating this new case design that if you tightly close the latch in a warm environment then take it out into the cold the latch is almost impossible to open. I took a small candle and rubbed a little wax on the wedge contact areas and this helped somewhat. The sliding latch must be closed pretty tight in order for the case to be water tight. During my tests I found when the sliding latch was just snug I would get a few drops of water on the inside of the case. So be sure to close the slide tight. The case is very well constructed and solid. I tried the detachable gray bracket with the supplied screws and found that with a small tug it would come off the tree. Using the cam without this bracket and a Python cable made a pretty good setup but left the camera door un protected. There is a small opening in the slide that will take one of those miniature padlocks which would help but would not be much of a deterrent to those who wanted your media card. Trying to cross the front of the cam with a Python cable would be hard due to the location of the PIR sensor and the IR array. I figured out a design using the holes in the back to completely secure this cam but we will keep that under our hat for the present. Back during the middle of the summer we began to hear noises about this camera coming out so I have made it a point to spend hours scanning many of the out door forums and taking notes on just how well this new addition to the game camera industry has been accepted. There has been some positive things said but there has been a lot of negative issues, mostly dealing with picture quality and IR illumination with the no glow arrays. This camera came to us with the no glow array removed and the glow array installed. The other area that seemed to concern folks was the stretch (hype) in the way that LUX and VGA specifications suggested they give 4.0 performances. A big plus was the claim of a fast trigger time. This claim has been the goal of a whole lot of the camera companies. These folks seemed to have perfected it. While I spent a lot of time going over the instruction sheet I had ten 2650 Ah NiMH batteries cooking to their peak. Instructions seem to be well written and thin enough to be kept inside the camera lid for a reference if needed. It would be nice if this company sent an extra copy just for that purpose, so folks who forget something in the field might have a quick reference handy to solve a problem. The next problem that I experienced was when I lifted the battery holder out to install the cells the connector came loose and fell inside the camera on top of the inside of the PIR sensor lens and under the PIR sensor. This is not good because it could result in damage to the fragile PIR sensor and any scratch to the PIR lens will lessen its efficiency. Small plastic tweezers stolen from my wife's makeup table was what was needed to reach and retrieve the connector. With everything hooked up I proceeded to install the batteries. This is another area of caution. The ten cell holder must be re inserted into its proper place but this must be done gently because the batteries on the bottom will slip down and the holder will not install flush. I tipped the cam upright and had no problem with this orientation. With all ten installed and a new clean CF card installed I proceeded with the programming. This was an easy task until I got to the file system manager so that I could format the card. The camera would not recognize the card. After three different cards were installed it became obvious that this camera had a problem. This prevented the review from going forward. I tested the touch screens operation under cold conditions and it did work but was difficult and slow to select. Folks who need reliability in temps that are below zero will probably have some difficulties here. Well this was short and sweet and I guess we will have to go on to the next project.        

The card we tested was formatted in FAT32 and tested.  The Error we got was:

"NO STORAGE CARD PRESENT"


A short video of our attempts at getting formatting the CF card with the camera (per the instructions)

 

  

10-15-2007 update:  We, were told on our forum that there was a way to program this cam and select the CF card media through the menu. We are presently trying to see if there is a logical way for a user to discover this by reading the manual.  Once this was done, the camera did operate. Is this dumb a$$ on our part?  probably, but I still think that the instructions lead me in the wrong direction. Once this is determined we will report. We only have the one sheet and it is with Anthony and I went to the web site and could not find a pdf down load in order to determine this so I must wait for Anthony to get home and go over the documentation. We roused a few feathers so far in this company and we apologize for that but the whole procedure arriving to this point has been a degree of arrogance on their part because of how much they feel about their new product. We believe that slowly they have conceded that maybe there is still some work that must be done and they are in the process of doing that. The announcement that there is two new cameras in the background being developed for this next year tells us that this present camera is basically a beta project to see if what they are doing fly’s.


I just received mail from Anthony who has spent some time trying to digest the instructions and he confirms my conclusion... that there are no logical instructions telling the user how to find the method of switching the media from USB to the CF card option. It was found under the setup recording settings. The documentation makes mention of this area but only talks about selecting movie, stills, etc so logically why would one look there to select the CF card option. Maybe the dumb a$$ thing above was not merited....

Any way, now that Anger Management up there in preditorville is in order, we will continue to give these folks the best review we can and still be fair and balanced. The normal procedure has been to go over the physical part of the camera,  switches, buttons, and connection data. Next would have been the actual programming and success of this operation. This would lead up to the flash range tests. From there we would have gone through the cameras performance in the field. Right now this cam is taped to a tree to see if it will actually take a picture and record it on a CF card. Once this is done we will pull the camera and proceed through the evaluation on schedule with as much as it takes to get this jewel back home where it belongs.

10-18-2007 update:  This realtree hardwoods case measure 5WX9TX4D inches and is very solid. The hinge is a stainless rod through the plastic hinge tabs. The latch is a 4 ¾ inch slide with cams to match mirror image cams on the case. When properly closed this system makes what appears to be a very water tight seal. During my tests, when things were tight and the slide would stick I had a tendency to not latch the slide completely. When the slide is in this position we experienced a small amount of water drops inside the cam. Make sure that the slide is completely moved to the bottom when deploying this cam in the field. The back of the cam has facility for an additional plastic hanger to be hooked on by the use of an implement pin and spring clip. We found this of little use but the flat areas of this hanger are fashioned so I was able to use a ratchet strap around the tree to hold it in place. Using the supplied screws through this hanger will hold the cam to the tree but can be easily be pulled of the tree with a small tug. The serrated protrusions on the back of the cam are cut to match the contour of the tree and this is a nice feature. Inside the cam is just a black box with a screen and at the top is a tiny on/off switch. Turning the switch on the screen will light up and a menu will appear. Programming is simple and straight forward. When placed in the cold this touch screen becomes much less pliable and responsive. When you hit one of the control areas you will see a gray smear area extending from the button area across the screen. Our tests were above zero and this was the results. In colder temperatures this may be a area of difficulty. I adjusted the program so that the sensitivity was on a 9 and then proceeded with the flash range tests and sensing range tests. The IR illumination worked well to 40 feet but the clarity was somewhat fuzzy. The sensing range for this 65 degree morning was a pretty solid 30 feet. While doing this test I found that this camera looks up more than most cameras we have tested. In order to get the pictures to center I tilted the camera forward a little and when in this orientation the sensing improved. Initially I thought the sensing range was going to be 10 to 15 feet before tilting the camera forward. Trigger seemed to be very fast but the delay period set to minimum (30 seconds) seemed too long. For a camera with this very low resolution the write time to the card should be nearly instant like we saw with Buckeye and Reconyx. So far this has been a fun cam to use and these folks have some new technology injected here that seems to work very well. The next two cameras they said were coming we hope they upgrade the CMOS for the kind of picture clarity a camera of this cost should have.

For the convenience of the Chasingame.com readers, here is an Adobe Acrobat version of the camera's manual.

10-27-2007 updateThis portion of the review will deal with what they call the no red flash model. All specifications previously talked about above apply to this cam also. The latch on this camera appeared to be more functional and did not require any type of lubrication for it to work. The seal was also better on this camera. I was able to install the ten batteries and shake the holder and this holder held the batteries tight. The battery holder connection was also better and did not come off. I cruised through the programming and performed some in house testing to see how much light was coming from the IR array. I could not detect any light from the array during triggering. I then viewed some pictures (without flash) and found that this camera appears to have a mind of its own. I just starts taking pictures every 30 seconds for a while and stops (the burst mode setting is "1"). There was not a thing in front of the camera to cause it to trigger. When I viewed the pictures the first 20 or so pictures had a definite green haze to them and then the pictures slowly faded to a washed out color before going to its normal fuzzy color pictures. The red blob version (see sample pictures) also has this green haze in the pictures. The flash did pretty good out to about 15 feet but did not seem to do much past that. These tests were in house without light and a 65 degree temperature. I will put it on the stand in the morning to do some field testing. This limited range is similar to the early Wildviews and required us to move the cams in pretty close for those night time shots. This camera also looks up, and needs to be aimed a little lower than most cameras. The crazy picture sequence may be a result of the sensitivity being set to a 9 but we performed the same test on the red blob version and had no problems with this setting. Discussing the function of the Predator cameras with owners we have seen a wide degree of differences as far as how the cameras act under the same conditions. It is almost like no two cameras are the same. We saw this with the early GS 200 Moultries. If you get hold of a good one “keep it”. The delay period on this camera is very close to the advertised 30 seconds where the red blob camera was always longer than that by a few seconds. The field reports reflect that the folks at Predator are working very hard to keep ahead of the problems and are responding in a timely manner to keep folks happy. There seems to be a portion of the camera population they put out that have things that require their attention. This is good news because we know of one of the camera companies that is having to deal with a 5 to 6 week turnaround. Playing around with the view screen was kind of a nice feature. This camera’s pictures when viewed on this small screen actually look pretty good. It is when they get up in size on a computer monitor where the lack of detail is more apparent. It is easy to scan through the pictures and when necessary select and zoom in for a closer look. This would help those folks who do not just swap cards and go on to the next cam and wait until they get home to see the pictures. It also helps to insure that this cam is looking at the area that the user has chosen to aim at so there is no cutting off the feet or being to far left or right. I will get the flash range testing and the sensing range testing done and we will move to the field for a closer look (probably less than 15 feet).
 

10-28-2007 update:  Performed the flash range tests and found that between 10 to 20 feet is about all that is readable. The 30 and 40 foot targets were washed due to lack of light. You can tell what is out at those distances but there is no amount of detail. This no red (no flash) is just that and is very limited to short distances. Cam must be placed in the 15 foot range in order to capture any degree of detail for night with flash pictures. With this cameras narrow field of view, good aiming will be critical. The sensing range for this 54 degree morning was 25 to 30 feet which is well within the range of this cameras flash range so all should work well as long as the camera is placed in close to the target area. Those situations where the user feels that the flash has a negative effect on the game, this will be the camera to use.    

 

10-31-2007 update:  We have had a chance to gather some field pictures and as with the in house testing this camera has a tendency just to go off on its own. It appears to take pictures for no reason at all. The day pictures are the same as the red blob version but the night pictures are pretty lame. For anyone who needs any degree of picture quality in their night time pictures this no red blob version is not for you. The fact that there is no visible light  when the pictures are shuttered is a plus but the limited amount of flash coverage and low picture quality sure takes away from the value of owning one of these cameras. The many strong features of this cam should be passed along to next year’s version but the weak features should be eliminated and replaced with upgraded features.
 

11-03-2007 update:  As previously stated that if you get a good one “keep it” well we were not so fortunate. Our non cherry picked no red blob unit has a couple of problems. The first thing reported was its tendency to just go off on its own. We would normally just go ahead and return the cam through normal repair at its source but because the manufacture is fairly unhappy with our findings they have chosen not to communicate with us. This cam will be returned to the undisclosed vender and I will be looking at a couple of the same that I have access to. It would have been interesting to have been able to report on what folks had said about their repair services but we will not be doing this. With our experience and the reports we are getting from the field, these cams are somewhat problem prone and require an occasional trip to the repair facility. This is not uncommon for first year productions cameras that have not been completely tested prior to release. Cudde and Moultrie both had the same type of experience. The cherry picked red blob factory unit is functioning with little difficulties so we will have to use it for our movie samples but hopefully we will work the kinks out of the no red blob cam. Battery life is around two weeks for ten Energizer AA Cells. The instructions stated that these cams will take San Disk CF cards, but both these cams will not. We could only get them to work with the Lexar cards we had available. Seems like these cams are having more quirks than a Yugo. We had reported that the instructions were well written and understandable, but we have found on a continuous basis that questions that needed to be answered could not be by reading the instructions or visiting their web site. The need for a “frequently asked question” section is needed in both areas but for this cam it would make for a multi page instruction document and web pages. What is in the instructions is OK but just does not cover enough areas. We gathered a few red blob daytime video’s and they also were plagued with that overall green tint. Our other cameras recorded a lot of action last night so maybe this morning we will have some night time red blob videos to review. If so we will put the no red blob out for the same test if we can finally get it to go into the movie mode and accept the CF card for the movie test.

 

11-04-2007 update:  While keeping up with the research on the Predator cam and scanning the many outdoor forums, I began to see where folks were basically bothered by the picture quality but were somewhat favorably impressed by the movie quality and frame rate. Let us look at this mode a little closer. Take your new Predator cam to the woods and put it on a really good solid tree looking at a very busy trail intersection or feeder. Your plan is to leave the cam out for a week or so. You program the cam to movie mode and select the middle option of 20 seconds. Chances are you will fill your card up the first few hours of the first evening. The only way this camera will be of value in the movie mode is when you might have an occasional visitor that would pass buy quickly. If the visitor lingered in the area and the cam kept on taking movies it would fill the card up in no time. In our test area the traffic is very heavy and with a 256MB card it was all over in less than 20 minutes (this was 20 triggers of some squirrels and birds). One of the cams we have has the proper format that windows will recognize the other will give us an error in Windows Media Player. There again it is the cherry picked cam that works and the no red blob does not. With the no red blob cam the movies can be viewed on the cams view screen only. One other thing we noticed is with a new set of energizers and one night in the movie mode (card filled in less than 20 min.) the battery level dropped from 100% to 50%. The cam was probably still trying to function the rest of the night after the card filled up. If we were to have these cams long term we would definitely be looking to see why it appears that there is much more battery drain in the movie mode verses the still mode.   Average file size is 12MB for 20 seconds of video on the Predator, whereas on the Moultrie I-60 it is 2 MB. The only way we are going to be able to capture sample night time movies is to take a trip to the test area after dark. Putting this cam out in the day time has proved that the card was full with day pictures long before our night visitors arrived. All the very good points that these cams have is quickly taken away by a building list of negative features. The folks at Predator have their work cut out for them this fall and next spring in order to have a truly field ready cam by the time the catalogs come out next year. Looking back at the first line of this review I would ask “is the competition worried?”. I would have to say not yet.


 

 

Trigger Time [with Red Blob LEDS]
Trigger Time [with NO Red Blob LEDS]

Note: I placed these tests in as a set in sequence to demonstrate how this camera always starts off with a greenish hue then cycles to more normal color.  These are basically 30 seconds apart.





Flash Range [with Red Blob LEDS]
Flash Range with No Red
Samples (640x480 - VGA) [with Red Blob LEDS]






Samples - No red
(for daytime examples see above)



Movie Samples
 

 



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Predator Xtinction                flash digital camera review 09-00-2008

We have anticipated the release of this camera from late last year when the noise was leaking out that there was something really great coming from Predator cams. Hour after hour of research since the anticipated May 08 release has kept the rumor force buzzing. The web site finally started to show the pictures and features of what we could expect. At the top it says The Evolution Has Begun then just below that is the word Xtinction. I know it is missing the e but are they trying to say that next year folks are going to find these hanging on a tree and say yea that is one of those old Predator cams, they are now extinct? This review will try to see if all the new improvements for 08 would save it from that becoming more than just a name, let’s hope not. We did not leave on good terms last year with this company. We normally do not have these problems but our findings were honest and true and that data did not set well with the folks over there. They have since made it known that we would not get a thing from them again. Well we are wishing them well with this year’s addition to the market. The delay in the release seemed to be something about a parts issue and had some dealers canceling orders because of no explanation and non communications. We have several people that we have direct contact with and are in possession of the early released cams and we have already filled up a file on field data coming from them as we do with all new releases. When a cam is due to be released at the end of April and we are now into September and only a select few have been released so we started to pay close attention as to reason. We have our own on the way in, plus daily feed of field use data. I will hold on to that for a while until I get into this a little deeper. The Brochures states do traditional IR trail cams with the “red glowing Bulbs” spook deer? if you don’t want to take a chance the Predator Xtinction should be your first choice! Whether using it over scrapes, baits, or trails this is a must have for all serious hunters. We are in complete agreement on the “true“ infrared emitters having no red glow and do not spook deer. This cam advertised that they also have an additional selectable 16 standard emitters over the 32 true IR emitters. The extra red glow emitters are to be used only when the need for a longer range flash is needed. We have a couple of the competitor’s cams that are black flash and they have performed well above our expectations. We are truly looking forward to putting this camera through the same paces we put the others through.

Let’s take a look at the case and its features. It appears that it is the same case that was used last year and is in a nice gray moth pattern. They do have a very solid case and is probably one of the best features of this camera. The hitch pin bracket is still somewhat cumbersome to me but some folks really like it. We know that our needs and methods of use differ in the way other folks deploy their cams so it is a good feature for some and can be removed for others. Our early field gathered data will lead us in an unusual direction at first and once that has been looked at then we will proceed with our normal review. We have always wondered just why some camera companies say “pass word protected or 4 digit security code” to prevent theft. If I am the typical bad guy that is trespassing and find that camera hanging on a tree and not cabled down, it will be gone. The fact that it is electronically protected does not change the fact that it is gone. Maybe to the satisfaction of the fellow that lost the cam that it cannot be used by the bad guy will be of some comfort. But when the bad guy finds that it is not usable then he will probably throw it away or destroy it. Now lets back up and go the same scenario and the bad guy finds this same un cabled cam but it has a small label across the front that says password protected then that might make a difference. There is absolutely no substitute for good physical security and then the electronic thing would also help. This camera has this label molded into the camo case and it is hard to see but is there. This cam has electronic protection if you choose to use it but is a little weak on the physical means.

Five pictures in fewer than five seconds in burst with a minimum delay of 30 seconds for both the single trigger and burst 5 mode Max delay is one hour. I always wondered about that big old doe that smelled just right and came walking out and lingered around for about 6 seconds and then wandered off and then that big old buck with his nose in the wind came in looking for her and stayed around for about 5 more seconds, do you think this cam would catch a picture of him? Video is five to fifteen seconds controlled by the user’s selection. As with last years cam, this year they still have the view/touch screen for programming and viewing pictures in the field. Last year this screen worked well for us but when we did the freezer test it became hard to use. Those folks in the Dakotas might have to do a little warm up operation to get the thing to work. This cam takes 10 AA batteries or can be used with a SLA external for longer battery life. Solar panels are also available to also keep things running longer than what the AA’s will do. One of the features that we are seeing this year is the date time stamp on the videos. This camera has adapted this feature also which is a nice touch. We have had reports of some cams that are starting to have an issue with whiteout and these issues have been called in and the Predator folks quickly asked for the cam back to replace a bad plastic lens over the sensor. Plastic, I thought they only used glass, well maybe not over the sensor but a replacement lens was ordered and things will probably up and running soon on those cams.

The advertised trigger time is ½ second “hypersonic trigger time” so of course I was trying to figure out how this term fit trigger time. It seems that that term relates to speeds 5 times faster than sound and mostly deals with aircraft. Thinking back about last year we had the lux thing floating around to describe the lack of resolution. We had a saying in the military that said “If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with BS” I think the brilliance of hypersonic has wilted down to the other term again. Having a half second trigger time is a very respectful place to be in the trail cam industry. There are many that far exceed that time but we absolutely see no problem with any cam that is sub 2 seconds with out the aircraft speed as an identifier. As you can see that the type of flash has been omitted at the start of this review because we cannot call it a black flash and we cannot call it a red flash but it is closely mated to the low glow red flash but far weaker so that hole will probably be filled with the term slack flash. There is also a big gap in the advertising of this cam that deals in two main areas. “True IR and Double Vision Technology” plainly written in the catalogs. From what we can see, both of these things are not on the camera that we are reviewing and it is most definitely a new Predator Xtinction. Again this is not brilliance.

I looked for the 32 “true infrared” emitters and the additional 16 clear emitters for extended flash range and could not find them. In there place we see an array of lo glow emitters that appear to be coated with a blue coating. This again is not brilliance. From what we have seen from many users this cam does perform very well but does put off a red glow that is subdued. This makes what we would think a very usable camera that has some very good features but it definitely is not what a person thinks he is getting when he reads the catalog description. As we had to do last year we have had to spend a lot of time explaining what we feel is actually there and not what has been written it the advertising. Let’s see if we can get on with an actual review of the new 08 Predator Xtinction slack flash camera. Right in the middle of the web sites features page is the “made in America” symbol and flag. It appears this might be a bit of a stretch, it should be more like Nissan and Toyota they use the term “assembled in America”.

Picture of the array from the catalog:
 
The array from our unit:

Out of the box first impression is that this is a super good looking camera, The gray camo is very well done and the case is very solid. With my catalog in my lap and this cam next to the picture it is very obvious that what came out of the box and what is displayed in the catalogs pictures and description is definitely not the same. Rather than spend any more time on the degree of discrepancies in the advertising and what I have in my hand I am forced to just report on what came out of the box because that is what everyone will receive even if it isn’t what they ordered. This is one of two cams we have for this review just to make sure everything is parallel.

The big question that will answer about a hundred e-mails we have received. YES this camera does have a red glow, it is subdued but can easily be seen at 15 feet. Is this a problem? I would think not unless the cam is at eye level and in multi shot or movie mode. This will put this cam in another category and remove it from its advertised black flash category and enter it into its own slack low glow flash category.

Below are some thumbnails (click for larger versions) demonstrating the actual glow taken with a hand held camera in a dark room.  these photos are not enhanced.  The camera has acurately captured what we see with our eyes:

The array on at 5 Feet


The array on at 10 Feet



The array on at 15 Feet

The programming was a snap and I had to adjust the day/night parameters to get the red glow pictures with my G-9 to show the glow distance. The day/night programming would only have a problem if we had an extremely gray day and the light levels would extend into the day. This setting should be good for about thirty days in most cases. We did experience some difficulties with a couple of Bushnell cameras that had the same feature. The rest of the programming is very straight forward and easy. To get things going after the programming is done just hit the run button and close the box. The only other ports are for the CF card slot and a USB port for the jump drive and hookup to your PC. If we can get some good flash distance and sensing range along with quality pictures this camera will be hard to beat in this price range. I will get some sensing distances and flash range tests in high only in the morning.

10-02-2008 update:  I spent a good part of the morning sending a friend a note in reference to this review, in an attempt to bring things up to date. This morning was a very good morning for testing because the temperature was in the 50’s and things just seemed to fall in place. Being able to see the flash go off was a definite aid to my flash range testing. This camera has made a definite improvement over what we saw last year. The flash reached past 40 feet and the sensing range was just less than 40 feet for this 51 degree morning. The day night time expired and the filter flipped during my sensing range tests. There was a definite clunk that made me look to see if the cam had fallen off the tree. I know this only happens twice a day but if the very animal you were trying to capture was present and this happened it might cause the animal to spook. I took the cam and put it in my lap and reprogrammed this time and when I crossed current time the filter would shift making this noise. Those who presently have this cam can try this and you will see what I am talking about. This is minor and not like the clunk every shot that we seen with the Stealth cam IR. There appears to be a difference in what the book said was minimum delay of 30 seconds. I tested this and found it ranged from 16 to 18 seconds. This makes this camera much more appealing for trail users. These folks have made a giant step up in performance in this year’s model. If we can just get good 50 foot flash range and decent pictures we will be able to call this cam a winner. I will try to use a comparison between the RM-45 Reconyx and this cameras night pictures. I know that the Reconyx is only 1.3 MP but it is also lo glow like this camera so it is the only camera we have that is near in description to use as a guide. We will just have to see how that test comes out. I will get this camera over to Anthony so he can move it to the hill for pictures and do some trigger time testing.

10-03-2008 update:  We skipped the trigger time testing and went straight to the 50 foot deep woods testing because of the many folks who wanted to see the results. As previously stated we are going to compare this cams night function to the RM-45 because both are in the low glow category. The flash distance of the RM-45 is better at 50 feet but the Predator did a respectable job. We had set this cam up on max sensitivity to do the sensing range tests and left it there after the 50 foot deep woods flash tests. The cam ran away and took pictures one after the other until the card was full. We moved the sensitivity down and the cam now seems to function as normal. This tells us that anyone who buys one of these cameras must do a considerable amount of testing before taking it to the field so they are sure things are working correctly. These cameras appear to be not the same from camera to camera. They must be treated as individual cameras and the operator must learn the quirks of each individual camera so they do not experience what we did. The max setting would probably be fine during very hot weather. We are now down to a setting of 5 on this cam and it seems to maybe like that setting for our area. Further north where things are much colder that setting might also be too high so testing before deploying is essential. We are going to take it back up to the hill and make sure we have the sensitivity set right then pull it in this evening and try to get the trigger time testing done. Should things go haywire again we will take the other cam up there and see how it does.

Our setup was a little to the left of the aim point we needed so we will only show those pictures from the morning where the sun was behind the cam. We did have some pictures that were color lacking and was red in tint. The contrast is lacking and the color is a little washed. We are also in the process of a review on the Cudde Capture 3.0 white flash and we pulled the cards at the same time and the Cudde day time pictures appeared to be better in quality when compared side by side. The hair color on the deer was very close but the greens were very subdued on the Predator pictures. We have a new setup and different aim and we will gather more sample pictures at the proper angle. The change in sensing level did fix the run away issue we had yesterday, so it is a lesson learned. We may not get t the trigger times this evening because we have to get all the other cams ready for the trip down south to the other testing area and get them put out on some trail situations.

10-04-2008 update:  We made it through a series of night pictures and have posted the results. I would call them average for a 3.0 cam. They show a degree of blur on moving animals which seems to be the case with many we have tested this year. The sharpness of the IR pictures is somewhat less than those of the other low glow RM-45 Reconyx camera. The daytime color pictures are good but still lack sharpness. There seems to be a milk like haze in the pictures that we did not see on the day Cudde Capture that was taking pictures in a nearby area at the same time (similar lighting conditions). The trigger times came out at a solid 1 second for both with and without flash. These tests were done on the 3.0 MP setting. This is about the same as what we seen with the Scoutguard and Timber eye cameras. The Capture was a half second faster. We will say that yes they have made improvements since last year but they are not there yet. We will post some side by side pictures of the day Capture and night RM-45 to show why we said that. The capture is $150 cheaper and the RM-45 is the same price.

10-05-2008 update:  The movie mode in 15 fps were pretty good and had a little bit of jitter but mostly fluid. We did get an old doe crossing at about 40 feet and the cam picked her up about 3/4th of the way across the field of view so on our present sensing setting we should be in the right range for the night temperatures. That movie was captured when the temperature was about 70 degrees so the sensing is close to the flash range. I am beginning to believe that out theory that the longer flash in movie mode scaring deer more than the flash from the single IR flash is maybe not correct. In this camera there is a delay period of around 18 seconds when set to the 10 setting. The duration of the flash appears to be around 2 seconds then goes off for 18 seconds and if the deer is still watching (motion) then this will repeat and this will result in a series of blinks 2 seconds long and off for 18 seconds. In the movie mode the flash comes on and remains on for about 24 seconds during a 20 second movie then drops off for the delay period. This longer exposure does not seem to matter as much to the deer as the quick blip blip of the single capture setting. The same deer seen in our movies are the same deer that noticed the flash in the single capture mode. In the movie mode they seemed to not pay the flash nearly as much attention. Please view the sample pictures and movies to see what I am trying to describe. We have been using the RM-45 as a cam to compare to because we only have these two cams in the low glo configuration. Our field tests with the RM-45 on much wilder deer showed that the deer did at any time catch the camera flash and it was set at eye level, yet this cam does get noticed by the deer. To try to figure out why we took both cams in the dark room and set them up for a flash study. The flash on the RM-45 is just a blip (instantaneous), the Predator flash comes on and stays on for 2 seconds. The difference in visible glow was less on the Predator than the RM-45. The duration of the flash is probably the culprit as to why the deer see the Predators flash and don’t notice the Reconyx’s flash. This trying to get inside a deer’s head and know what is going on is causing me slowly crave some long neck brown bottle refreshments in a quantity that is probably not considered healthy. I would have to see a long range study to see if by setting your camera to a longer delay would remove the degree of spook that the flash on flash off causes. It definitely appears that the shorter flash does make a difference. The repeated 2 second interval flash is in my judgment why it caught the eye of these deer. We also considered the noise factor (filter clunk) but the pictures were not at the transition time so there should not have any movement of the filters in either cam. We are now looking at shutter noise to see if there is any. My old ears are not up to the task so Anthony has it in the bathroom with the lights off and I hear some strange noises that I don’t think are shutter noises. Well he came out and stated that he could not hear any shutter noise so we are going to have to believe that it is the flash and not any noise causing the attention.

 

10-14-2008 update:  We have pretty well ran these cams through all the testing areas and now it is time to draw our conclusion. We have spent a lot of time working with these cameras and found that they are not a cam that can be taken out of the box and hung on a tree with a quick start menu choice and expect to work at its best. Each have a personality of their own so each cam has to be treated as being possibly different in what settings work best. What I am saying is that they do function in a respectable manner but it requires that the new owner keep it around the house and yard for a week or so to find out what parameters this cam likes. This is especially true in the sensing settings. Most every task we gave these cameras was handled pretty good with mixed results as far as sensing and picture quality. Flash range is better than last years but still not up to its competition. We actually have no Idea what camera we tested. All we can say is that the cameras we ordered were Xtinctions. What we received had a marking of Evolution in one area and Xtinction in another area. They did not have the advertised flash (black). They did not have the advertised trigger time. They did not have the advertised resolutions. They did not have the advertised delay periods. They did not have the extra 16 clear emitters for extra flash range. They did not have the battery life as advertised. I just went back to Cabelas and their web site and there is no change from the first time I started to do research on these cameras. The specifications and graphics are still the same and I could see no disclaimer that would justify selling and shipping something different than what was advertised. We were hoping to get on better terms with the folks over there in Predator Ville this year but it so far has not worked out. There was a flood of hype just before release that appeared on the popular outdoor forums but all the authors were traced back to a particular source and discredited for the most part. There is still some of the 07 wind blowing but we know there will always be next year and things will be better.

 

Being a direct descendant of one of the best cameras on the market this cam has only a small part of the blood line to run off of and it still lacks a pedigree.  This review is closed.

 

Trigger 1 second with and without flash

Flash
Samples 3mp (emmiter setting on high)





Deer reacting to flash (emmiter setting on high)
Movie Samples (emmiter setting on high)
Movie Montage (emmiter setting on high)
Sample 3mp LOW Illumination

 
 
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